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FED_UP:

I'd rather have my kids getting a whack (not whupped as you put it) with a board than shot with a gun like is going on now....and parents are buying these guns for the kids now??????????????????   the world has gone nuts!

You better yank your kids out of public schools, then.....because in public schools[where kids get beat with boards]they will also get shot with guns!! We don't teach our kids violence in home school.....and I,[the principle] am a heavily armed veteran....anybody wanting to bring any kind of violence in here, will pay a heavy price!! ~Denarky

Denarky,  you must live in a bubble?  did you say you're an adult?  you do know how to read?  people will come in your house...with guns and try to take whatever they want, including that sweet little girl of yours....SO you better get some really big guns and dig a moat.

FED_UP:

Denarky,  you must live in a bubble?  did you say you're an adult?  you do know how to read?  people will come in your house...with guns and try to take whatever they want, including that sweet little girl of yours....SO you better get some really big guns and dig a moat.

Actually, I'm a young adult [58yrs]and did two tours in Nam....first tour: search and rescue[outta Da Nang] second tour: Sniper outta Saigon. So far, I have only had to use a gun on one person here in Ar....and he ain't among the living no more! ~Denarky

The problem is we have a generation of either spoiled brats or neglected children. There is a generation (I am on the cusp of this generation) of females who live from the flat of their backs and males who dont know how to be men. Women do not know how to be ladies anymore and there are very few men I know that are the good ol fashion family man.  And unfortunately this generation is having children. I have seen a couple parenting styles... #1 you have mommies and daddies that do not want to hear their children whine so they give them what they want thus resulting in the spoiled brat. (I tried that once as a child and got my butt spanked and learned my lesson.) #2 you have "mommies" and "daddies" that are no where around the children so there is no one for the child to whine to and this kind of parent (and I use the term loosely) is the reason you have children who take what they want regardless of who they hurt because that is how they have learned to live. these kids do not learn the principles of actions=consequences.  I think we need to take the parents of delinquents and spank them!!! As far as paddling in school I am for it because I know that my daughter is well behaved and the thought of getting spanked at school would make her think twice before doing anything bad. And if she did do something bad then she would have to suffer the consequences. For those parents so against it let me ask this: If your child is well behaved and you are doing your job in the discipline area then why are you so worried about this issue? It shouldnt matter if they allow paddling in school because your little angel wouldnt dare do anything bad.

Lorelei:

 For those parents so against it let me ask this: If your child is well behaved and you are doing your job in the discipline area then why are you so worried about this issue? It shouldnt matter if they allow paddling in school because your little angel wouldnt dare do anything bad.

What a statement.....you know; think I'll just change my opinion now....Since I have three grown kids and one getting an A-one education at home: I now agree with Lorelei.....beat the freakin hail outta those brats and don't forget their parents....~Denarky   

Well I wouldnt go so far as to say beat them. What I am saying is that the fear of reprisal might be enough to scare some of these kids into behaving properly. Stop allowing these kids to push their limits. We as adults have a right and a responsibility to these children to teach them right from wrong. Lets face it there are a lot of kids these days that need someone to show them the boundaries and teach them how to behave in civilized society. You think prison overcrowding is bad now? Just wait another 10-15 years. Yes in a perfect world it is the parents responsibility to discipline the child but that isnt happening so someone needs to step in and since we have given our children to the school system to teach them reading and writing then perhaps conduct should also be one of those subjects children study.

you brag about killing someone....but don't want anyone to know you used to smoke.   okay.  makes perfect sense to me.  and thanks for going to Nam for us, I for  one appreciate it.  just as I appreciate the ones fighting for our rights now.  (one of which is to smoke a cigarette if I want to without feeling like a felon with leprosy)

By the way Denarky,  who is teaching this A-one education and what is being taught to her?   your opinions on learning or is there someone telling you what to teach her? 

and I agree with what Lorelei said wholeheartedly.   These kids are out of control and need someone to teach them how to act like humans.

I should say no to this (seeing as I used to get sent to the office a lot as a little boy), but I have to agree.  Of course it should be left up to each parent.  When I was in school, my parents gave them permission, wanted to be called when it happened to see if they need to come and do it, then I got it when i got home.  It wasn't that they were beating me.  But I wasn't going to ruin my or any of my classmates education.  I came out fine, and so did all my buddies.  Momma still tells me that she can take the belt to me anytime and I'm grown and moved out of the house.  She's not going to do it just because she can, and neither are the schools.  It's because they want the best for the child.  What does suspending a child from school do?  Let's them sit at the house all day, sleep in, and play video games while their parents are at work.  I think that more kids need a belt on their @$$.  Wait...then you wouldn't give talk shows any more writing ideas.  No more shows about "My 13 year old is pregnant and out of control".  I talked to my mom or teacher like that, it would have been all over.  Guess I grew up with a mom that loved me and wanted to see me make the best of my life.  I honestly think that more children should have parents like that.  Thanks Mom, I love you too, and to everyone else that popped my butt when I need it.

I think that paddling should be allowed in public schools for the simple fact that some of the parents these days act as though they are afraid of discipline.

TCurry:

I think that paddling should be allowed in public schools for the simple fact that some of the parents these days act as though they are afraid of discipline.

What(?) you think torture is acceptable in schools,  but don't think it's right for our troops to torture prisoners of war; even if it saves American lives?? We might want to adopt waterboarding in the schools....it will work better, and leave no bruises!! If you think whipping the kids will change the parents, you are woefully mistaken. To the contrary; the parents will come down on the schools as swift as a falcon with lawsuits! Rather, you should force the parents to come pick up their unruly child...after a few times; the parents will do the whipping!     IMO~Denarky 

I FIRMLY BELIEVE IN PADDLING IN SCHOOL!! JUST RECENTLY MY 12 YR OLD SON GOT IN TROUBLE AT SCHOOL AND WANTED TO SUSPEND HIM AND I TOLD THE PRINCIPAL THAT HE DIDN'T NEED THE TIME AWAY FROM SCHOOL. SO I INSISTED HE GET A PADDLING INSTEAD. THAT MADE HIM STOP AND THINK ABOUT WHAT HE DID. HE GOT A PADDLING FROM ME AND HIS DAD WHEN HE GOT HOME ALSO!! THE BIBLE INSISTS THAT WE SPANK OUR KIDS. TOO MANY PEOPLE PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT THEY WANT TO BELIEVE OR LIVE BY WHEN IT COMES TO THE BIBLE. SO MANY PEOPLE SAY THEY ARE CHRISTIANS AND DON'T EVEN REALIZE WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS.

Unless you are literally a public school teacher, you have no idea what teachers deal with each and every day.  I have seen paddling change a child because this child learned the limits.  I have also seen children who got worse, or even worse, had no reaction one way or the other.  And yes, some of the fault lies with the parents.  Teachers have a variety of personalities in each classroom coming from a variety of home situations.  Rules have to be established and rules have to be enforced.  If we want these children to become productive adults (although some of them have no role models to follow) they must learn to live by an acceptable set of rules.  How many of you work where you can do as  you please with no consequences?  Our society as a whole is out of control.  It does begin in the home and must be nurtured in children.  Even God spoke of discipline in the Bible.  I personally do not of any child being beaten by a teacher.  However, I do know several teachers who have been beaten by out of control students. 

I had to respond to you.. You said people didnt ask the government's permission to have a child so the government should stay out of it.  Well, since people dont get the "government's" permission to have their children, then the "government" should end all free hand-outs to people having babies and not working to pay for raising them.  The reason these hand-outs are "FREE" is that the working class works, and overpays taxes, to support the hand-outs to those not willing to work.  The big problem is that even though their rent is being paid, sometimes utilities are as well, and food and medical care is provided, these stay-at-home parents wont even teach their children manners.  They are not required to do a thing but apply for the "FREE" stuff and then they go merrily on their way.  We have children entering kindergarten who have never even touched a pencil or had a story read to them..Is it any wonder our teachers are being overwhelmed trying to teach, be parents to these children, and counselors, and whatever else these children have a need to have....Wake up people!  Our schools reflect society.  Teachers cannot save the world nor teach a child with no discipline.

profplumm:

 the "government" should end all free hand-outs to people having babies and not working to pay for raising them.  The reason these hand-outs are "FREE" is that the working class works, and overpays taxes, to support the hand-outs to those not willing to work.  The big problem is that even though their rent is being paid, sometimes utilities are as well, and food and medical care is provided, these stay-at-home parents wont even teach their children manners.  They are not required to do a thing but apply for the "FREE" stuff and then they go merrily on their way. 

Boy aren't you just a real beauty. You are a Professor huh? Well in your inimitable education; you have just trampled all the "disabled folks" including those that just happen to be veterans!!  You know, the ones who stood in the line of fire, taking bullets and being blown up so you could parse society in your high self esteem! I hate to tell ya bro/sis[as the case may be]....my kids got their whippings at home...with psycological verbal guidance enforced occasionally with the hand, rather than a board! You might want to go to a few child abuse cases....oh, and take your class, so you wont be charged with a day off!!  We all know how teachers are sadly recompensed for their invaluable service. What about me?? Should I get paid for teaching my kids at home?? ~Denarky    >>>P/S Oh, I almost forgot to remind you, Freedom, even in this country; does not come "free" somebody paid for it! Feel free to thank a Veteran for what you have!